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Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:55 pm
by Cowpoke
Hi KMFrye54,
if I may correct you, what I said was that Glen did NOT add "and cowgirls" during his 1977 concert at the Festival Hall in London. He DID add it on his 1981 live album. That 1981 album was recorded on May 8, 1981 at the Cornwall Coliseum, Carlyon Bay, St. Austell, UK. I haven't found the exact date for the Royal Festival Hall concert yet, but usually Glen toured the UK in April, celebrating his birthday there too. I found one reference to Glen playing the Glasgow Apollo on April 15 1977. So I can think we can safely assume The Royal Festival Hall concert was in April/May 1977 (which fits your estimate on the recording date quite well actually). Somewhere between that date and May 8, 1981 Glen started adding "and cowgirls" at the end of Rhinestone Cowboy! I have old tapes of tv and concert appearances from that period so I might be able to pin it down more accurately. And of course we have to find the exact recording date for the Royal Festival Hall concert!

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:08 am
by jay
KM...I would have lost a TON of $$$ on that. I would have never guessed it was that early. Thanks for schooling!

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:48 pm
by KMFrye54
Ok, so to re-cap a little: "Rhinestone Cowboy" came out in May of '75 and by 77 Glen was adding "and Cow gir-r-r-rls" to the end of the song, per the Royal Festival Hall concert.. The issue date of the Live album (November '77) isn't a lot of help, because it really does not equate to the date(s) of the actual show. I did locate a 1978 newspaper reference to "last spring" for a concert date, but even that is pretty vague. Still, let's be kind. Let's give the producers 6 months to pull all the bits together and get the copies in the stores for November. This makes the concert likely some time before May, 1977.

Narrows it down to about a 24 month span at the outside, and more likely less. So all we need is some first-hand evidence from a concert attendee (or even a bootleg tape) between May of 75 and May of 77 to see if he used the extra line or if it was literally "new" for the album.

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:59 am
by Randy
What's interesting to me, is that those "enhancements" (imho) are remembered by his serious fans. Guitar solos, and cowgirlllllllllllllllll, and I'm doing fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeee, or the galveston closing, such as In good ole Branson , Missouuuuurrrriiiiiiiiii, are remembered mostly by his most serious fans, and not so much by his casual fans. And of course I realize, those "enhancements" are fun things that were not needed on his hits when originally recorded, yet got a very noticeable positive reaction later from his serious fans when he started adding them in.

Think I confused myself writing this.

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:08 am
by Cowpoke
Ha you made me go and listen to some more concert recordings. Turns out Glen already did it on his 1981 Glen Campbell Live album, recorded in England. On Live at the Royal Festival Hall from 1977 he justs ends with ‘like a rhinestone cowboy”. So we have pinned it down to somewhere between 1977 and 1981! I wonder if we can get it even more accurate.

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:33 pm
by KMFrye54
He was doing both in the PBS concert (with the South Dakota Symphony), if memory serves. That was in 2001.

So we can see him use those "extras" at least that far back.

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:50 am
by Cowpoke
That is a good question. We had a similar question once about... when did Glen start to add "and I'm doing fine" at the end of Wichita Lineman. In 1990, during the Doncaster (Live at the Dome) concert he still used "got a wichita woman/lady on his mind" at the end of the song. A few years later, during the Branson years, he had switched to "and I'm doing fine".

But I have no idea when he started adding "and cowgirls!!!" to Rhinestone Cowboy. Was it also during his time in Branson? Or earlier?

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:42 am
by jay
Any idea when Glen incorporated that into his routine? I wonder what female influence suggested it.

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:12 am
by Cowpoke
Exactly Randy. One would have expected that she would have done the "and cowgirls!" part at the end. Oh well...

Re: Best of Glen Campbell on YouTube

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:55 pm
by Randy
Yes , me neither Cowpoke. Only two things left out were "sounds like a norman luboff choir" and "and cowgirllllllllllllllllllllllll"